Oswald, Ruby, and Women
Here’s an obvious statement: Jack Ruby and Lee Harvey Oswald have countless differences. Not many people compare them at all and simply see Jack Ruby as the assassin of Lee Oswald, the assassin of JFK. However, with our past two in-class discussions, I started to see many similarities in the way that Ruby and Oswald interacted with people around them. Specifically, their interactions with the women in their lives were extremely ambiguous and confusing for me, so I write this in hopes that their reasonings for this ambiguity become clearer.
In the chapter “12 August”, we met Jack Ruby, who (we know because we are informed civilians) is the person who shot Lee Oswald. We first hear him mentioned by two of the strippers that work at his club, the Carousel Club. Lynette mentions that he has heard that he calls girls “dumb c****” and threatens them. Brenda/Baby LeGrand denies that he would ever physically harm his dancers. Later on, they see him outside the window throwing out a man for inappropriately grabbing one of his dancers, showing his willingness to step up for the respect of the strippers that work for him. Already, this is a confusing aspect of Jack. He calls his strippers awful names and threatens to harm them, which definitely is mentally detrimental to them. However, he makes an effort to protect these women against club visitors who seem to violate/physically grab them. Jack Ruby seems to be violent and maniacal with a quick temper but uses it for the protection of the women that work for him. To add to this, he has this strange affection for the police, bringing sandwiches and offering free drinks to the “boys in blue”, although he is constantly teetering the border between legal and illegal with his strip club. The ambiguity of his actions is extremely confusing.
However, Lee Oswald is also quite ambiguous in how he presents himself. As we discussed in the chapter “In Dallas”, it seems as though Lee’s perception of his and Marina’s relationship is ever-changing. He held back telling Bobby about Marina and “how much he missed her and needed her and how it made him angry” (page 271). However, he quite obviously abuses her when he does get time with her, hitting her in front of people “because the zipper on the side of her skirt was partly open” (page 286). He made her write to the Soviet embassy in Washington in hopes that she would get sent back to the USSR (in hopes to achieve “pure revolutionary” perspective?? Oswald, what?). Oswald shows that he is able to show his control over Marina as one part of his life that he can control, even if his plans don’t follow through (like only brushing General Walker with the bullet or getting fired from his job).
Putting these two characters together, we see that they both have some sort of longing for control in their lives, which they are able to find in objectifying the women around them. However, they both also hold some sort of affection for these women, Lee “needing” Marina when she is away and Jack throwing out male club visitors who grab the strippers. But even in these instances, we never are able to see reasoning clearly - the meaning of “need” for Lee is never clarified; is he really missing Marina as a human being and his soulmate or is it him being away from sexual intercourse that makes him “need” her? And for Jack - is he throwing them out because he actually cares about the strippers’ safety and moral values, despite calling them names and threatening them at times, or is he showcasing his masculinity to the general public by using and acting upon uncomfortable situations in which his workers are grabbed inappropriately?
If anything can be concluded, it’s that both Lee and Jack’s ambiguity in their actions towards the females in their lives must create mental instability for these women, and that they care more about the public presentation of their own reputation than the women themselves. Oswald hit her in public because her fly was partially down, showing strangers that he had control over her. Ruby threw out a man in public to (seem like he needed to) protect a worker. They both seem to care about how other people perceived their "handling" of these women's situations... And to address a question brought up in class today of “who’s the good guy” - I think it’s safe to say that the answer is neither when it comes to basing it on their understanding of morality towards females.
Yeah, it doesn't seem like Lee cares about Marina's well-being, or about her as a person. He got married to her because he proposed to his previous girlfriend and got rejected. He just needs a wife so he can have kids and a family to be the patriarch of. Jack Ruby, on the other hand, does seem to care about his strippers. Whether or not that's because they're his emotional support group is unclear.
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Nice post! I hadn't given this very much thought. I wonder what DeLillo is doing with these similarities - or does he even notice they are there? Are these similarities some attempt to show that figures who go down in history have some need to control something, in this case, women, or is he simply including these details without really trying to comment on their misogynist content?
ReplyDeleteThis is an interesting post. I also agree that it doesn't seem like Lee actually cares about Marina. To me it seems like he married her to fit in better in the Soviet Union, aka for him to "become" more Soviet himself. As soon as he realized he doesn't really want to be in the Soviet Union anymore, he loses interest in Marina, as she now makes Lee stand out more in America.
ReplyDeleteThis is a really eye-opening post! I had never really thought of comparing these two assassins and I think it is really interesting to see how they are actually very similar in personality, especially in terms of their relationships with women. Good job!
ReplyDeleteI can totally see your depiction of Jack Ruby as a contradictory figure in the way that he treats the women around him. Spoiler alert: as I was reading ahead this weekend in Libra, I think that Ruby's final advance of Brenda's (a stripper at his club) salary via telegram before his shoots Lee is a great example. While we see this compassionate side of Ruby in that he cares of the well-being of his dancers, he is still perfectly willing to take someone's life only seconds later.
ReplyDeleteIt's interesting because while Ruby and Oswald's treatment of women is based on wanting to have their outward appearance a certain way, but Ruby is based on a wish to seem heroic and Oswald is based in a want to seem put together. Ruby is kinda the anti-oswald because he wants to seem heroic and patriotic and chivolrous, where Oswald wants to seem smart and put together and respectable in a patriarchal way. They go about them in the same way--controlling women and not caring about them--but it's different motivations. I think in general studying Ruby in contrast to Oswald would be a fruitful intellectual endeavor.
ReplyDeleteI never connected Ruby and Oswald's treatment of women before so this post is really interesting! I think personally I sympathize with Marina because of how Lee treats her more, because she is so isolated from any other support system besides him and he abuses her, but I also definitely agree that neither Oswald or Ruby treats women well.
ReplyDeleteThis is a cool post! I definitely agree that Lee doesn't actually like Marina. It seems like he only married her to be somewhat of a trophy wife. I'm not sure I really buy the entire thing about Lee missing Marina, because I think he only misses someone who can control and dominate, and essentially manipulate.
ReplyDeleteI definitely think there are many similarities in how Ruby and Oswald treat women. Honestly, most of these actions seem pretty in line with broader patriarchal ideas about the dynamics between men and women. Neither one of them seems to view any of the women in their lives as fully-developed people with a rich interior life the way they view other men- and honestly, given that this viewpoint is uncriticized and held by virtually every man in the novel, I can't help but wonder if DeLillo feels this way as well. I also think that, as you note, the need to project a specific image to the world plays a big part in this- I think both Oswald and Ruby seek to play into masculine ideals.
ReplyDeleteThis is super intresting G. I had never really thought about that comparison but I think it makes a lot of sense. It's asort of toxic masculinity-esque situation where Jack and Oswald's respect for women is pretty conditional. I do think though that Jack's seems to extend a lot farther than Oswald's, because I really don't buy the fact that Oswald genuinely cares about Marina at all.
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